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kilkennycat2004 (Power User)	Posted: 25-Aug-2012 10:08	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
kilkennycat2004 (Power User)	Originally posted by pegasusIII: im open to correction but i dont think our tony forristel record is anything to write home about! Clare won in 1986 & 1990, beaten finalists in 1993 1995 1998 1999 & 2002. Its more about players coming through than entire teams IMHO.
spade caller (3,554 Posts)	Posted: 25-Aug-2012 12:12	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
spade caller (3,554 Posts)	I did a bit of research a few years ago to see about the correlation, if any, between the Féile All-Ireland winners and the Minor club teams 4 years later, mised results, feel free to correct anything as club websites aren't great for under-age rolls of honour; 1996 James Stephens beat Kilmallock JS: Didn’t make either Minor championship or league final Kil: Won Minor championship 1997 Tullaroan beat Sars Tull: Didn’t make either Minor championship or league final Sars: Didn’t make Minor final, 1998 Shamrocks beat Tommevara Shamrocks: Lost league final, didn’t make championship final Toome: Didn’t win championship 1999 Eire Óg (CE) beat Glen ÉireÓg: Didn’t make County Minor Final Glen: Didn’t make Minor final 2000 Sars beat Loughrea Sars: Didn’t make Minor final Loughrea didn’t make Minor final 2001 Oulart beat Rynagh’s Oulart win Minor Championship Rynagh’s: Won Minor Championship 2002 Glen beat O’Loughlin Gaels Glen: Minor Champions OLG: didn’t make league or championship finals 2003 James Stephens beat Dúrlas Óg JS: Beaten in Co. Final, not in league final Thurles Sarsfields Win County Title probably with the Dúrlas Óg lads 2004 Ahane beat Shels Ahane: Didn’t make Championship final Shels: County Champions 2005 Kilmacud beat Blackrock Rockies Win Minor Championship Boden win Minor Championship 2006 Na Piarsaigh beat Athenry Na Piarsaigh win u16 Championship in 2008 Turloughmore beat Athenry in u16 Final 2008 2007 Castleknock beat Ahane Castleknock beaten in county semi-final
cnoc16 (241 Posts)	Posted: 25-Aug-2012 13:48	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
cnoc16 (241 Posts)	You are right up until 2008 or 2009 Sonny Walsh was for B teams and had Kerry, Kildare, Meath, Weatmeath, Waterford B, Derry, Carlow etc involved. There was even a 3rd tier (Waterford Crystal Cup) with the likes of Tyrone, Wicklow, Longford etc. It was a great idea to have every u14 team in the country in one place as people could see all teams. Now the B competition is in Mullingar not sure bout C. Think would have been better having all together
South Limerick Referee (16,613 Posts)	Posted: 25-Aug-2012 13:53	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
South Limerick Referee (16,613 Posts)	If I remember correctly Limerick won it in 2002. The minors were hammered by Cork and Tipperary in 2006, though some of the 2002 Forrestal players would have been on the 2005 team that reached the All Ireland Minor final. Brian Sullivan and John Kelly werent there in 2006 either.
blaaboy (111 Posts)	Posted: 27-Aug-2012 12:36	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
blaaboy (111 Posts)	Just to bring it back into focus with the Tournament coming up this weekend, normally the last weekend in August but 1st weekend in September this year because Senior All Ireland is gone to second weekend. Hopefuly the forecast for improved weather will hold out and we wil get a dry weekend. New format this year with 12 teams contesting Divison 1 with Laois and Antrim joining the fray. Welcome back to both of them. As regards the dispute about what it means for future teams, very hard to predict other than teams who are competitive in Forristal tend to be very competitive in minor. Like all these underage tournaments they are in blitz fashion and only feature players up to the age. Have seen some really good sides been unfortunate not to qualify for finals over the years. When they reach minor you have what is esentially a combination of two and possibly three Forristal teams and this can make a huge difference. Without being biased have to say the response to the Forristal Tournament and the praise it gets for its organisation is well merrited. You only have to look at some of the referees who turn up each year to referee Under 14 games. Advice to anyone interested in hurling - if you are free this weekend get along to Waterford - entry into all games, and limited number of match programmes available free, and if you are lucky a cuppa and a sambo too, but most of all some of the most competitive hurling you will see. 31st tournament this year.
cussler (108 Posts)	Posted: 28-Aug-2012 21:59	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
cussler (108 Posts)	Am hoping to get to Waterford this weekend for the Tony Forristal but I'm a bit disappointed that it will only be possible to see either the A or the B but not both as they are in different venues and the games are set to take place at the same time. All the same it should be a good weekend.
BellShafted (1,123 Posts)	Posted: 28-Aug-2012 22:05	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
BellShafted (1,123 Posts)	Won't be in Waterford this weekend - will be playing what is possibly my last ever junior championship match before I retire (again). Is there a site that will put up scores or can someone post them here?
blaaboy (111 Posts)	Posted: 29-Aug-2012 16:37	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
blaaboy (111 Posts)	It was a bit unfortunate for some fixtures clashing this year with the additional teams meaning that there have been more clashes in times. Before there were the A and B sides involved this would not have been an issue. It was always attempted to keep the grounds in close proximity to each other to allow patrons get to as many grounds as possible , but De La Salle and Roanmore moving out the country a bit put a spanner in the works. Still St. Saviours, Mt Sion, De la Salle and Walsh Park are quite close to each other.
Turenne (1,088 Posts)	Posted: 31-Aug-2012 14:47	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Turenne (1,088 Posts)	http://www.rebelog.ie/taggedNews/160583/211/cork_development_squads_will_be_in_action_on_this_coming_weekend
Habanerocat (2,252 Posts)	Posted: 01-Sep-2012 20:22	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Habanerocat (2,252 Posts)	Any results back?
Keanes Road (2,524 Posts)	Posted: 01-Sep-2012 20:28	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Keanes Road (2,524 Posts)	This is the Annual Inter-County Under 14 Hurling Tournament hosted by Waterford on the last weekend in August each year. The Division One winners receive the Tony Forristal Cup named after the late Mount Sion man Tony Forristal with the Division Two winners receiving the Sonny Walsh cup in memory of the De La Salle man. The Tournament is held in high esteem and the success of the tournament over the last 31 years is a credit to the organisers. Club Deise has once again kindly come on board to sponsor the Tournament. The fixtures for 2012 are below with the Waterford Tony Forristal team playing its group games in Mount Sion and the Waterford Sonny Walsh team playing its group games in De La Salle Gracedieu. The tournament will be held on the weekend of the Saturday 1st/ Sunday 2nd September 2012. Best of luck to our two Waterford teams and to Ben Flanagan who represents Mount Sion on the Tony Forristal team. On the day this page will be updated with the results from across the groups. Group 1 Group 2 Group 3 Group 4 Date and Venue may change Kilkenny Dublin Laois Clare Limerick Wexford Cork Galway Tipperary Offaly Waterford Antrim Group 1 Group 2 Group 3 Date and Venue may change Wexford Galway Dublin Limerick Kilkenny Tipperary Clare Waterford Cork Date Team Team Time Venue Date and Venue may change 01/Sept/2012 Kilkenny 0-10 Limerick 1-6 11:00am St. Saviours 01/Sept/2012 Clare 3-9 Antrim 3-0 11:50am St. Saviours 01/Sept/2012 Kilkenny 2-5 Tipperary 0-3 01:00pm St. Saviours 01/Sept/2012 Clare 1-3 Galway 3-6 01:50pm St. Saviours 01/Sept/2012 Limerick 5-9 Tipperay 2-5 03:00pm St. Saviours 01/Sept/2012 Antrim 2-3 Galway 2-12 03:50pm St. Saviours 01/Sept/2012 SF Kilkenny 1-6 Galway 0-3 06:00pm St. Saviours Date Team Team Time Venue Date and Venue may change 01/Sept/2012 Dublin 0-9 Wexford 4-5 11:00am Mount Sion 01/Sept/2012 Laois 0-5 Waterford 3-10 11:50am Mount Sion 01/Sept/2012 Dublin 4-8 Offaly 1-3 01:00pm Mount Sion 01/Sept/2012 Laois 1-4 Cork 1-7 01:50pm Mount Sion 01/Sept/2012 Wexford 6-16 Offaly 0-2 03:00pm Mount Sion 01/Sept/2012 Waterford 3-7 Cork 0-7 03:50pm Mount Sion 01/Sept/2012 SF Wexford 1-7 Waterford 3-9 06:00pm Mount Sion Date Team Team Time Venue Date and Venue may change 01/Sept/2012 Kilkenny 0-10 Waterford 0-5 11:00am De La Salle (Gracedieu) 01/Sept/2012 Dublin 1-6 Tipperary 1-12 11:50am De La Salle (Gracedieu) 01/Sept/2012 Kilkenny 0-9 Galway 0-6 01:00pm De La Salle (Gracedieu) 01/Sept/2012 Dublin 1-4 Cork 0-17 01:50pm De La Salle (Gracedieu) 01/Sept/2012 Waterford 1-7 Galway 4-13 03:00pm De La Salle (Gracedieu) 01/Sept/2012 Tipperary 0-8 Cork 1-7 03:50pm De La Salle (Gracedieu) 01/Sept/2012 SF Kilkenny 0-4 Cork 1-9 06:00pm De La Salle (Gracedieu) Date Team Team Time Venue Date and Venue may change 01/Sept/2012 Wexford 2-8 Limerick 3-5 11:00am Walsh Park 01/Sept/2012 Wexford 3-8 Clare 3-4 01:00pm Walsh Park 01/Sept/2012 Limerick 3-9 Clare 4-13 03:00pm Walsh Park 01/Sept/2012 SF Wexford 2-9 Limerick 2-6 06:00pm Walsh Park Date Team Team Time Venue Date and Venue may change 02/Sept/2012 Wexford Cork 11:00am Walsh Park 02/Sept/2012 Division 1 Waterford Kilkenny 12:30pm Walsh Park
Keanes Road (2,524 Posts)	Posted: 01-Sep-2012 20:29	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Keanes Road (2,524 Posts)	Taken from the Mount Sion site.
licksy (207 Posts)	Posted: 01-Sep-2012 21:04	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
licksy (207 Posts)	Originally posted by licksy: WX will be interesting and the game v Dublin worth keeping an eye on. The top teams in Div 1 in WX are from Gorey and WX town area and are a good bit ahead of the rest, yet a Good Counsel side heavy on players from New Ross district beat St Kierans comfortably to win Leinster earlier in the yr. Gorey did well enough in the Feile - think they only lost out to St Brigids in the group stages. I'm not sure if their best player is involved though. I've probably hexed them now. Didnt hex them afterall. Good weekend for WX. Beat Dublin well, hammered Offaly - but came up short v Waterford in SF. B team in final of Sonny Walsh v Cork tomorrow.
kilkennycat2004 (Power User)	Posted: 01-Sep-2012 21:53	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
kilkennycat2004 (Power User)	I went to these four games in Ballybeg before heading to the Intermediate Final up in Thurles... 01/Sept/2012 Kilkenny 0-10 Limerick 1-6 11:00am St. Saviours Major wind at the venue. KK led 8 points to 1 at half-time but were lucky to hold out for one point win. Limerick won toss & decided to play against wind which was strange I thought. 01/Sept/2012 Clare 3-9 Antrim 3-0 11:50am St. Saviours Poor refereeing decisions here. He seemed to be awful tough on Antrim. Strange to see a sending off (Antrim guy) for two yellow cards in a 40 minute game. 01/Sept/2012 Kilkenny 2-5 Tipperary 0-3 01:00pm St. Saviours KK led 1-2 to 0-01 against the strong wind at the break so the work was mostly done at that stage. Tipp were very poor towards other years. 01/Sept/2012 Clare 1-3 Galway 3-6 01:50pm St. Saviours Galway blitzed them with impressive high quality first-half goals when with the strong wind, which Clare could not recover from.
HitemHardHardHard (1,498 Posts)	Posted: 01-Sep-2012 22:10	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
HitemHardHardHard (1,498 Posts)	Good Stuff kilkennycat2004, Any stand out hurlers?
cussler (108 Posts)	Posted: 01-Sep-2012 23:06	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
cussler (108 Posts)	Was at St Saviours today and Walsh park this evening. It was very well organised as usual. Kilkenny for me were the stand out team. They were very impressive especially at mid field. Limerick did well to be just a point off at full time. Kilkenny were just as good on the sideline. They had five mentors patrolling the sideline and to see them in action was an eye opener. The seemed to really know what they were about. It looked like a very efficient set up. Galway were very good too and accounted for Clare and Antrim fairly easily. The Clare no 10 was very good but Galway had some huge men especially in the central positions. Overall I thought the wind ruined the games out in Ballybeg. Every game was one of two halves and scores against the elements were crucial in close games. I also thought the standard of refereeing was atrocious. The division B s/final between Limerick and Wexford was a close affair with Wexford edging it after extra time. Before I left I heard that Kilkenny had beaten Galway in one of the A s/finals.
kilkennycat2004 (Power User)	Posted: 01-Sep-2012 23:18	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
kilkennycat2004 (Power User)	Originally posted by HitemHardHardHard: Good Stuff kilkennycat2004, Any stand out hurlers? For our KK fellas Darren Mullen of Ballyhale Shamrocks. For LK I thought a chap called Brian Nolan from Patrickswell was handy. TBH at these kind os matches, 20 minutes a side, you kinda focus on you're own guys.
Faugh a Ballagh (414 Posts)	Posted: 01-Sep-2012 23:54	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
Faugh a Ballagh (414 Posts)	Waterford v Kilkenny final tomorrow. I didn't get to see Limerick, Dublin or Antrim but of the teams I saw.... Kilkenny looked the most impressive today with some real standout hurlers especially Edmond Delaney and Darren Mullen. Tipperary were a bit dissappointing in their match against Kilkenny and never really threatened. Galway looked very good against Clare with a brilliant corner forward in Jack Coyne. Clare didnt reach any great heights in that game against Galway. What I saw of Wexford they looked pretty strong with a few real stylish wristy hurlers. George O'Connor had them well drilled. Eoin Kelly looked a great prospect at corner forward. Laois were very competitive in both their games and were only beaten by 4 points against Cork and were well in the game with Waterford until the last 10 minutes. Pat Critchley has done some great work with them. Offaly were probably the weakest team on view and took a real trouncing against Wexford. Chatting to one of the Offaly lads he said they just don't have a enough numbers at that age at the moment in Offaly and indeed some of the lads looked very young. I only saw Cork against Waterford and they were a bit dissapointing with Waterford ending up easy winners by three goals. They had three really good yound lads though in Killian Treacy, Kieran Cashman and Garan Manley. Overall though they didn't seem to be well coached often taking the wrong option under pressure in their use of the ball ending up with them having a lot of bad wides in the first half with the wind. Waterford seemed to improve as the day went on. They started slowly against Laois but really started to hurl in the last 10 minutes. Against Cork they were on top all through with good displays from Tadhg Meyler, Jack Prendergast and Eoghan Murray. Overall though of what I saw, Kilkenny seemed to be very good with some brilliant team play and combination which belied their years. They just might have a bit too much for Waterford tomorrow but you never know. Hopefully anyway it will be another great final. This message has been edited - 01-sep-2012 @ 23:58
kieran73 (566 Posts)	Posted: 02-Sep-2012 12:08	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
kieran73 (566 Posts)	Cork 2-10 Wx 1-05 in the Sonny Walsh final , easy enough for a dominant Cork .
joe bloggs (1,069 Posts)	Posted: 02-Sep-2012 12:39	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
joe bloggs (1,069 Posts)	The geniuses here in offaly are trying to go back to the future with ground hurling. great to see it paying off
kieran73 (566 Posts)	Posted: 02-Sep-2012 12:45	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
kieran73 (566 Posts)	WD n KK 0-1 a piece after ten mins , close game being fought around the middle in the main . Both ff lines threatening .
cussler (108 Posts)	Posted: 02-Sep-2012 13:24	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
cussler (108 Posts)	Originally posted by kieran73: WD n KK 0-1 a piece after ten mins , close game being fought around the middle in the main . Both ff lines threatening . Any result yet Kieran73?
cussler (108 Posts)	Posted: 02-Sep-2012 13:41	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
cussler (108 Posts)	Kilkenny have won the 2012 Tony Forristal beating Waterford on a scoreline of 1:12 to 1:05
kieran73 (566 Posts)	Posted: 02-Sep-2012 20:33	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
kieran73 (566 Posts)	KK far too strong in the middle third , and won far more convincingly than the 7pt difference suggests . The stand out team over the two days and fair play to living up to that in the final . Waterford had some decent individual performances but not enough to really trouble KK .. Who were seemingly well versed from the line too , sadly , and it's reluctant to state what lots pointed out , but the WAterford selectors marked each other again today , KK took turns walking the perimeter cajoling players etc ...it didn't make a difference re: result but an indication of what's required , even at this level the KK backs had no bother pulling / tripping the man down when beaten ..lessons to be learned for all ...
kieran73 (566 Posts)	Posted: 02-Sep-2012 20:36	Quote Edit Delete Report Post Post Reply
kieran73 (566 Posts)	KK far too strong in the middle third , and won far more convincingly than the 7pt difference suggests . The stand out team over the two days and fair play to living up to that in the final . Waterford had some decent individual performances but not enough to really trouble KK .. Who were seemingly well versed from the line too , sadly , and it's reluctant to state what lots pointed out , but the WAterford selectors marked each other again today , KK took turns walking the perimeter cajoling players etc ...it didn't make a difference re: result but an indication of what's required , even at this level the KK backs had no bother pulling / tripping the man down when beaten ..lessons to be learned for all ...

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